WEST LINDSEY DISTRICT COUNCIL

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MINUTES of a Meeting of the Council held in the Council Chamber at The Guildhall, Gainsborough on Monday, 9th August 1999 at 7.00 pm.

 

Present : Councillor A D Caine (In the Chair)

Councillor A H Frith (Vice-Chairman)

Councillor P N Baldwin Councillor M J W Parish

Councillor T Brown Councillor Mrs I Parrott

Councillor S Curtis Councillor W S R Parry

Councillor Mrs C M Dobson Councillor L J Rainsforth

Councillor G J Fenwick Councillor R Rainsforth

Councillor I G Fleetwood Councillor R Sellars

Councillor M French Councillor R A Shore

Councillor W Gabbott Councillor Mrs D E Silverstone

Councillor E H J Green Councillor M L Starkey

Councillor S F Haywood Councillor C L Strange

Councillor P J Heath Councillor S C Taylor

Councillor J Indian Councillor C J Underwood-Frost

Councillor C R Ireland Councillor K Whaley

Councillor D H Lomas Councillor T V Young

Councillor D A Mortimer

 

In Attendance : Chief Executive, Director of Corporate Services, Housing and Community Services Manager and Support Services Manager

 

Also Present : 3 members of the public and a member of the Press

 

Apologies : Councillor C W G Greenaway

Councillor Mrs M P A Greenaway

Councillor A C Rosser

Councillor N Taylor

Councillor B A Theobald

Councillor M Tinker

 

 

Prior to the commencement of business the Chairman of Council was saddened to report the tragic death of Mrs Jasvinder Jeffery, Housing Advisor at the Housing Shop, 5 North Street, Gainsborough. A letter had been sent to her husband and young family expressing sincere condolences on behalf of the Council.

A number of Members paid their own personal tributes to the work of Jasvinder. The Chairman of Community Services Committee advised that he would be visiting the Housing Shop on behalf of the Committee.

During the Prayers that followed, the Meeting observed a period of silence in memory of Mrs Jasvinder Jeffery.

204 PRAYERS

The Meeting commenced with Prayers by the Reverend Ian Robinson.

 

205 MINUTES

It was proposed and seconded that the Minutes of the Meeting of the Council held on 5th July 1999 be confirmed and signed as a correct record.

RESOLVED that the Minutes of the Meeting of the Council held on 5th July 1999 be confirmed and signed as a correct record.

 

206 COMMUNICATIONS

The Chairman of Council reported on his civic engagements since the Meeting of Council held on 5th July 1999, a copy of which is attached at Appendix "A" to these Minutes.

The Chairman of Council referred to the International Caravan Rally held at the Lincolnshire Show Ground which he and his wife had the pleasure of attending on a number of occasions during the period Saturday 31st July to Friday 6th August 1999. Whilst it had been a tremendous success for West Lindsey District it had also seen other Lincolnshire District Councils coming together in order to ensure a wonderful occasion for the 10,000 visitors. He paid tribute to the work of the Council’s Tourism Unit and had been advised by many visitors to the Showground that they would be returning to the District in the future.

The Vice-Chairman reported that on Sunday 25th July 1999 together with his wife, he had attended the Civic Service of Newark and Sherwood District Council, held at Kelham Hall, Newark.

 

207 PUBLIC QUESTION TIME

No questions had been received

 

208 QUESTIONS PURSUANT TO STANDING ORDER No.8

  1. QUESTION by Councillor D H Lomas to Councillor M L Starkey, Chairman of the Community Services Committee :-
  2. "The District Council Bus Token Scheme has been in operation for some 10 years now, with very little review or revision in all that time. Most Members are aware of the dissatisfaction with the scheme by those participating in it, as they view other Authorities’ free pass schemes with some envy, as by far the best option.

    It occurs to me, and the Members of the Liberal Democrat group, that there would be some merit in the District Council taking up a "Half Fare Travel Pass" scheme in place of the present Token Scheme. It should cost no more than the present scheme, and could in fact cost less, and would give travellers a much more flexible and, in the longer term, a much cheaper option.

    Would the Chairman of Community Services Committee agree to take a closer look at my proposal, to consider such a scheme, for which I have prepared a paper with the basic outline and passed to the appropriate Officer.

    The radical scheme already has the approval of the Liberal Democrat group, and I hope that it would gain some measure of approval with the other groups within this Council."

    ANSWER by Councillor M L Starkey, Chairman of the Community Services Committee :-

    "Thank you for your question Councillor Lomas.

    As you and many other Councillors are fully aware the bus token scheme has worked well for many years.

    The current cost to the Council Tax payer is around £142,000.

    We are always prepared to consider any alternatives and with this in mind the Community Services staff and myself will be pleased to look at your paper in the first instance."

  3. QUESTION by Councillor T V Young to Councillor A D Caine, Chairman of the Council :-

"Within this chamber, on several occasions I have raised my concerns regarding Summergangs Lane, and the proposal of siting a civic amenity site in that area, and the antisocial behaviour of travellers who live adjacent to the proposed site.

I have attended meetings with fellow Ward Members, and representatives of the Town Council who also share concerns. We have stated the need for a meeting between senior representatives of the County Council, and Ward Members of this Council on several occasions to address some of our concerns.

Can you tell me why I have learnt in the last few days a meeting has taken place with senior representatives of the County Council, without the knowledge of Ward Members, who expressed the need to be present at that very meeting.

Can you also clarify if it is the intention of certain senior officers of this Council to deliberately try and work against the Members of this Council and block their efforts in working for the good of the town."

ANSWER by Councillor A D Caine, Chairman of the Council :-

"Thank you for your question Councillor Young.

On 26th May 1999 a meeting took place between Officers of this Council and of the Highways and Planning Department of the County Council primarily to discuss issues connected with the Local Transport Plan. I presume this is the meeting you are referring to.

Because it had been impossible to get any acknowledgement of responsibility for Summergangs Lane from Officers of the County Council prior to then, the opportunity was taken to raise the issue of Summergangs Lane at the end of that meeting, to try to move the matter forward, but I repeat, the meeting was not called to discuss Summergangs Lane.

The reaction of the County Council remains that Summergangs Lane is not a "highways" issue, and any consideration of it being a suitable topic for joint action of some kind would have to be pursued as part of a different agenda.

This is not acceptable to Officers of this Council and a request has now been made to the County Council’s Chief Executive for a Joint Member and Officer level meeting to be held. Ward Members will, of course, be invited to that meeting when a date has been arranged.

As far as the last part of your question is concerned you know full well that Officers of this Council do not "deliberately try to work against the Members of this Council and block their efforts in working for the good of the town" as you intimate. Such suggestions are completely untrue and do nothing but damage the morale of our staff, and also the good relationship which exists between them and Members at all levels."

In fact with regard to Summergangs Lane, the letter you received in late July which updated you and advised you of the officer meeting, actually asked for your suggestions as to a way forward involving members of the County Council. You do not appear to have replied to that letter.

 

209 COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE

It was proposed and seconded that the Minutes of the Meeting of the Community Services Committee held on 22nd July 1999 be received and the recommendation contained therein adopted.

Upon consideration of Minute 165 in connection with the prohibition of public entertainments on Christmas Day and Good Friday a number of Members were of the opinion that the prohibition should not be lifted on either day.

A view was expressed that Christmas Day was a day of celebration and Good Friday, a day of remembrance. An amendment was proposed and seconded that the matter be referred back to the Community Services Committee for further consideration based on a wider legal opinion being obtained; and the community being consulted.

On being put to the vote the amendment was declared carried. The substantive motion was then put to the vote and also declared carried.

Upon consideration of Minute 167 in connection with a report by the Social Exclusion Unit on the issue of teenage pregnancy a Member expressed misgivings about the provision of supervised semi independent housing for teenage lone parents and suggested that there should be more sex education and contraceptive advice provided via education in school and at home.

The alternative view was expressed that some underage parents were not sufficiently mentally mature to cope and needed the additional support supervised housing would provide.

RESOLVED that the Minutes be received and the recommendation contained therein, as amended, adopted.

 

210 CORPORATE SERVICES COMMITTEE

It was proposed and seconded that the Minutes of the Meeting of the Corporate Services Committee held on 29th July 1999 be received.

Upon consideration of Minute 174 in connection with Local Employers - a Strategy for the next ten years, a Member was of the opinion that the matter could only be approved by a meeting of the Council.

In response a number of Members commented that the Corporate Services Committee as the policy making body of the Council had determined that the matter be referred to the Working Group for consideration.

The Vice-Chairman of Corporate Services Committee explained that the timetable for comments had been set by the Local Government Association and the Corporate Services Committee had determined that a more detailed response to the Draft Strategy could be formulated by a Working Group. A copy of the finally agreed response to the Local Government Association would be included within the Information Booklet for Members.

Upon consideration of Minute 175 in connection with a Draft Mission Statement and Corporate Aims a Member commented that an Addendum to the Committee Report had been circulated at the Meeting, which did not give sufficient time for Members to consider in detail.

The Vice-Chairman of Corporate Services Committee advised that a fair degree of debate had taken place at the Meeting and the Draft Mission Statement and Corporate Aims had been published for the purposes of consultation. It was therefore open for all Members to respond as part of the overall consultation process.

Upon consideration of Minute 176 in connection with West Lindsey Training Services a Member commented that a joiners shop at the Training Centre had been moth balled and he considered it to be a great shame that young people requiring training were unable to make use of the equipment.

The Chairman of the Economic Development Services Committee referred to the Gainsborough Enterprise Centre and the need to co-ordinate training schemes and needs.

The Vice-Chairman of Corporate Services Committee advised that the Council's policy was that training schemes must pay for themselves and whilst the machinery may well be in first class condition there were no trainees coming forward to use the equipment.

Upon consideration of Minute 177 in connection with the Committee Timetable August 1999 to August 2000 a member enquired as to whether or not it would be possible to agree the Committee Timetable at an earlier date in future years.

The Vice-Chairman of Corporate Services Committee apologised for not being able to circulate a Committee Timetable earlier but reminded Members that a first draft of the Timetable had been submitted to the Corporate Services Committee in February 1999 and referred back for further consideration.

RESOLVED that the Minutes be received

 

211 PLANNING SERVICES COMMITTEE

It was proposed and seconded that the Minutes of the Meeting of the Planning Services Committee held on 28th July 1999 be received.

A Member commented to the Chairman of Planning Services Committee that on occasions Parish Council representatives attending Meetings had to wait for some time between consideration of planning matters affecting their Parish. He enquired as to whether or not all planning matters in connection with a particular parish could be brought together on the Planning Services Committee Agenda.

In reply the Chairman of Planning Services Committee advised that he had no intention of seeking to influence the Officers as to where items appeared on the Agenda for Meetings of the Planning Services Committee.

Upon consideration of Minute 187 (1) in connection with Plan No. 99/P/0188 (planning application to erect two distribution units Fireworks Store on former bomb storage site, Brookenby) the Chairman of Planning Services Committee drew attention to the decision to request the Planning Services Manager to ascertain whether in the light of GOEM's letter the direction also applied to the refusal of planning permission. If it did not apply authority had been delegated to the Planning Services Manager to issue the refusal of planning permission. If the direction did apply then the application would be referred to GOEM.

Upon consideration of Minute 187 (23) in connection with Plan No. 99/P/0013 (planning application for improvement to River Rase, consisting of two flood storage reservoirs, three golf holes, temporary stockpiling of material and siting of temporary site works accommodation Land East of Market Rasen) a Local Ward Member wished to express his thanks to the Planning Services Committee and its Chairman for agreeing to a meeting between representatives of the Environment Agency, County Highways, Market Rasen Town Council, and Local Ward Members to examine the possibility of an alternative access. The subsequent meeting proved to be most successful and a way forward had been agreed.

Upon consideration of Minute 192 in connection with Planning Application 1999/0592 - North Lincolnshire Council - Glanford Power Station - Burning of Alternative Fuels, a Member referred to the preamble of the Minute and the statement that "the material was volatile requiring transportation in sealed containers and the storage buildings needed treating to ensure that no dust was emitted into the atmosphere." He advised that the containers were not sealed but open topped lorries with canvas tarpaulins tightly strapped and a lead seal on the tailgate.

He further advised that the visit to the site at Barkston Heath near Grantham revealed that the storage buildings were like a "colander" with holes everywhere allowing dust into the atmosphere.

A number of Members expressed their concerns at the way in which the Government Agencies had handled the matter and were of the opinion that there should be more public debate and general information made available to the public.

A Member commented that the material must be transported in sealed bags.

A Member read to the Meeting a letter he had received from Edward Leigh M.P. apologising for not being able to attend the visit to Barkston Heath and advising that he will join in the opposition to the planning application.

The Chairman of Planning Services Committee advised that the Council was now formally being consulted on a Waste Management Licence. There was no consultation in respect of the use of the warehouses at Kirton Road, Blyton because the storage buildings already had an existing use classes order.

He further advised that he had written to Edward Leigh M.P. following the Meeting at Blyton but had not yet received a reply. He did not know if the Member of Parliament had been formally consulted by the Intervention Board and the Chief Executive was investigating this point.

The granting of a Waste Management Licence would be a matter for consideration by the Community Services Committee.

RESOLVED that the Minutes be received

 

212 TOURISM AND RECREATIONAL SERVICES COMMITTEE

It was proposed and seconded that the Minutes of the meeting of the Tourism and Recreational Services Committee held on 15th July 1999 be received.

Upon consideration of Minute 201 in connection with Richmond House, Gainsborough, the Chairman of Council advised that he was unaware of progress in respect of negotiations but assumed that the existing play areas would be retained.

Upon consideration of Minute 203 in connection with FICC International Caravan Rally Update and Tourism Leaflet Distribution, a number of Members commented on the excellent organisation of the event by the Caravan Club and FICC.

Some Members expressed concern that the transport to Lincoln from the Showground was provided free but those wishing to travel to Gainsborough were charged £8.50.

Comments were made as to the financial contribution made by the Council towards the Rally and the likely future benefit to the District as a result of such investment.

The Chairman of Council advised that over 10,000 people visited the Showground and most of those he spoke to intended to revisit the area soon. He referred to the difficulty in precisely identifying the economic benefit to the District at this point in time. Over 3,000 copies of Council tourism literature had been distributed at the site and a free bus to Gainsborough had been provided on the Saturday of the Rally which coincided with the "Gig on the Floss" event.

RESOLVED that the Minutes be received.

 

213 SEALING OF DOCUMENTS

RESOLVED that the Common Seal of the Council be affixed to any necessary documents referred to in the Minutes.

 

 

The Meeting concluded at 8.54 p.m.

 

Chairman