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NOTES OF A MEETING OF THE LINCOLN FRINGE AREA FORUM HELD ON THURSDAY, 16 JUNE 2005 AT INGHAM VILLAGE HALL, INGHAM AT 7.15 PM

 

PRESENT:                  John White (Chairman)

                                    Bob Wise (Vice Chairman)

 

                                    Chief Inspector Roger Bannister – Lincolnshire Police

Phil Hinch – Senior Licensing Officer, WLDC

                                    Steven Taylor - Agast

                                    Lynne Spink – Community Planning Co-ordinator, WLDC

                                    Nicola Turnbull – Committee Administrator, WLDC

 

ALSO PRESENT:      35 Members of the public including Parish, District and County Councillors, representatives from various voluntary organisations and officers of West Lindsey District Council.

 

APOLOGIES:             Reena Fehnert – Lincolnshire County Council

 

 

1          WELCOME

 

John White welcomed all that were present, and introduced the speakers for the evening.

 

 

2          ELECTION OF NEW CHAIRMAN AND VICE CHAIRMAN

 

It was AGREED that John White be re-elected as Chairman of the Lincoln Fringe Area Forum, and Bob Wise be re-elected as Vice-Chairman.

 

 

3          NOTES

 

The notes of the Meeting of the Lincoln Fringe Area Forum held on 21 March 2005 were AGREED as a correct record.

 

 

4          GENERAL OVERVIEW OF AREA FORUMS

 

Lynne Spink gave a brief overview of the role of Area Forums explaining that issues addressed at meetings were put forward by the public.  Any requests for future items for discussion should be forwarded to Ms Spink at West Lindsey District Council.  9 Area Forums were held each year, 3 in each area of West Lindsey.  Minutes of Area Forums were available on the West Lindsey District Council website and it was noted that all those present were given an opportunity to provide contact details to receive the minutes by post.

 

5          NEW LICENSING LAWS

 

The Chairman welcomed and introduced Phil Hinch, Senior Licensing Officer (WLDC) who addressed the meeting on the new licensing laws.

 

Mr Hinch explained that the new Licensing Act 2003 had not yet been fully implemented but would bring in many changes to current licenses.  It would hand responsibility for liquor licensing from the Magistrates Court to West Lindsey District Council as the Licensing Authority.  It was noted that there were four main licensing objectives which each license application would be measured against:

·         Prevention of Crime and Disorder

·         Promotion of Public Safety

·         Protection of Children from Harm

·         Prevention of Public Nuisance.

All of the objectives were equally important and provided the only reasons for imposing conditions or refusing licenses.

 

He outlined the benefits and drawbacks of the new legislation and explained that each personal license was fully portable and lasted 10 years and a premises license would last indefinitely unless revoked.

 

With regard to 24 Hour drinking licenses, it was noted that no applications had been received by the District Council.  Any one could object to a license as long as it covered one or more of the four objectives and they lived or worked in the vicinity.  The term ‘vicinity’ was yet to be defined.

 

Concern was expressed that only 30 conversion applications had been received out of a predicted 300 and 70 out of 450 predicted personal licenses.  It was confirmed that if the deadline was missed, a new application would have to take place which would involve a lengthy paperwork exercise.

 

Those premises that had not renewed their licenses by 6 August would loose grandfather rights and have to re-apply for a new license.  If a new license is not applied for before 24 November 2005, the premises would no longer be authorised to sell liquor after that date.

 

In response to a question, it was confirmed that extended opening hours would have to be posted on a blue A4 notice 10 days subsequent to license confirmation and a notice be place in the local paper or parish magazine stating new opening times.

 

It was confirmed that a temporary licence for premises could be applied for up to 12 times a year, and a temporary personal license applied for up to 50 times a year, although it was explained that even though a personal license may be held authorising the temporary sales of liquor for up to 50 times a year, one venue could only be used 12 times.  It was noted that the same rules applied when requesting extended licensing.

 

It was confirmed that a temporary entertainment licence would have to be purchased to licence occasional events in village halls at a cost of £21 per event.  A personal licence would not have to be purchased unless alcohol would be sold at the event.   If alcohol was to be served at an event, the personal licensee would not need to be present, but it was recommended by the authority that they should be as they would take responsibility should anything go wrong.

 

An entertainments license would not be required for religious entertainment, private parties, weddings and all non-profit making events.  Licensing for charitable events would be at the discretion of the District Council.

 

 

6          COMMUNITY SAFETY – NEIGHBOURHOOD WATCH, PSCO’S AND COMMUNITY GROUPS

 

Chairman welcomed and introduced Chief Inspector Roger Bannister (Lincolnshire Police) who addressed the meeting on the integration of Community Groups, the role of Neighbourhood Watch and PSCO’s.

 

It was explained that the Home Secretary had outlined views on how Local Policing Teams should deal with Anti-Social Behaviour and had requested that a corporate stance be made to rollout community policing.  Chief Inspector Bannister defined Community Policing to the meeting as any action to increase community safety and the feeling of safety reflected in public confidence, building a positive Lincolnshire and working with individual partners and communities encouraged through the local policing plan.  A Government White Paper had been produced which gave power to communities for consideration on how their area should be policed.

 

Local Community Panels would be composed of 6 -12 people representing the views of those in their local community and would be diverse through age, sexual orientation, occupation, demography and represent hard to reach / hear groups.  They would meet monthly to discuss issues which could be put forward to a Local Community Safety Team (LCST) as objectives for improvement.  The LCST would consist of PSCOs, CBOs , Specials, Cadets and Volunteers who would ensure that the identified problems would be solved or improved within an agreed timescale.  A Joint Action Group (JAG) would also meet, which would consist of practitioners of different agencies such as Environmental Health and WLDC. The JAG would have a more strategic role and aim to drive projects forward through the LCST.

 

A pilot had taken place in urban areas of Lincoln and Grantham and a rural area of Wainfleet which had proved that the scheme would be easier to implement in towns/cities rather than rural villages.  West Lindsey had been split in to 3 areas for policing: Lincoln Fringe, Wolds and Gainsborough and Surrounding Area with 9 policing teams:

·         4 in Gainsborough (Rural / North / South / East)

·         Caistor and Keelby

·         Market Rasen and Brookenby

·         Welton, Dunholme and Hemswell

·         Saxilby

·         Nettleham

 

This proposal would have to be signed off by Lincolnshire Police Authority by 2 July 2005 and it was aimed that by 1 December 2005 that every square mile of Lincolnshire would be covered by a Community Group.

 

Concern was expressed by the Chairman that Parish Councils were not being used for the Community groups and therefore created duplication of work and meetings.  It was explained that Community Groups represented more than just a parish and therefore needed to be impartial to a certain area.

 

Chief Inspector Bannister continued to explain that Neighbourhood Watch were the largest voluntary organisation in the country with 10 million members.  There were 5 administrative staff in the county (2 in West Lindsey area) and 2,000 street co-ordinators (70 in West Lindsey area).  Lincolnshire police considered Neighbourhood Watch to be an extension of the police force and a conduit for receiving feedback from the public on community safety, and also ties in with ‘Farm Watch’ and ‘Petroleum Watch’.

 

He outlined the new ringmaster scheme for the more efficient spreading of more relevant information between co-ordinators to improve communication through software which would be on-line at the end of 2005.  He recommended that all members of the public should join the neighbourhood watch scheme and could make contact Dave Townsend at the close of the meeting.

 

Chief Inspector Bannister explained that there had been a Government pledge to hire 24,000 Police Community Safety Officers (PCSO) and gave an overview of their role. They were drawn from the communities that they would serve and were of great assistance to the police force. The officers were involved in such activities as:

 

·         Community engagement

·         Professional Witness

·         Working with schools

·         Working with residential associations

·         Community beat areas

·         Working with outside agencies

·         Working on community transport

·         Removing abandoned vehicles

·         Vehicle tax evasion tickets

·         Dealing with anti-social behaviour

·         Traffic duties

·         Unlawful emissions and

·         Power of entry.

 

The PSCOs had authority to drive police cars, but not the extra rights that a member of the police force would.  They were also available to be purchased by District Councils for £23,000 for the first year and £17,000 for every year after that.

 

It was confirmed that PCSOs worked throughout the day up until 10pm.  It was felt that there was little need to provide a night shift service to the community as PCSOs could do most good during daylight hours and in to the evening and provided a comfort to those living in the community.

 

It was noted that PCSOs would be asked to be involved with issues such as riding bikes on pavements, litter and graffiti.  Problems regarding these issues could be forwarded to the Community Groups for consideration. Their role was a patrol function and supplemented but did not replace police officers.

 

In response to a query it was confirmed that convert cameras could be set up as long as they would only record the owner’s property.  Any further footage could only be recorded by authorisation of the Chief Executive of the District Council and the Chief Superintendent of Lincolnshire Police.

 

 

7          UNDERGROUND GAS STORAGE

 

The Chairman introduced and welcomed Steven Taylor of Agast who spoke to the meeting on Gas Storage.

 

He informed the group that a company called Star Energy were proposing to store up to 15 billion cubic feet of natural gas in the depleted Welton oil field.  The oil field extended from the northern part of Lincoln to Scampton in the west and the River Witham to the east.  It went as far north as Welton Hill / Langworth, nearly 100 square miles and over 65 villages/hamlets.  The purpose for storing the gas during the summer was in order to supply it in the winter when it would be of a higher monetary value.

 

It was noted that Star Energy were invited to attend the meeting, but declined on the policy that they did not attend public debates.

 

Mr Taylor explained that Agast had concerns regarding Star Energy’s proposal which were mainly surrounding public safety.  In statements taken from Star Energy it was noted that the storage would ‘involve a high degree of risk’ and that there were chances of:

·         Environmental hazards

·         Industrial accidents

·         Occupational and health hazards

·         Technical failures

·         Flooding and extended interruptions

·         Explosions and many more hazards not listed.

 

Migration of the gas was a possibility meaning that it would seep underground to other areas of the oil field not designated for gas storage.  It posed a further risk as there were up to 50 bore holes in the area, a potential risk for gas to leak.  These holes were positioned near to homes, schools and public places and would also leak substances such as hydrogen sulphide described as a ‘silent killer’.  There was also a possibility for oil to be spurted out through these holes due to the high pressure of the gas.

 

It was noted that Star Energy had quoted that their insurance may not be adequate to cover the consequences of the risks involved or where they may be liable for pollution.  Concern was expressed that the proposal given was not the full story, as the application to Lincolnshire County Council (LCC) proposes the storage of 2 billion cubic feet of gas, when the number had been confirmed to be 15 billion cubic feet.

 

Agast had provided LCC with documentation in excess of 150 pages outlining the reasons for objection to the application.  Also LCC had received more than 100 written objections by members of the public.  Mr Taylor encouraged further members of the public to voice their objections to the authority.  It was noted that LCC, as the planning authority would need to give planning permission to Star Energy for this project to go ahead, which would be considered at Planning Committee in September.

 

Consent would also have to be gained from Offgen through gaining a gas transporter license.  Any application for a license would need to undertake a consultation period which would only be available for viewing on the internet by those who look on the off-chance as there was no prior notice given.  This consultation had passed in Lincolnshire.  It was noted that if Offgen did not issue Star Energy with a license then the department of Trade and Industry would undertake to amend the Gas Act passed by parliament for the application to be exempt, which may be considered a breach of European Legislation.

 

Concerns were expressed to the Health and Safety Executive who claimed that policy does not apply to cases of pipeline or underground storage (European Legislation says it does apply).

 

In answer to a question it was confirmed that correspondence had been sent to Edward Leigh MP explaining the situation in the aim to gain his support.  It was hoped that if the legislation of the gas act went to parliament for amendment that local MPs would rally support to vote against it.

 

It was noted that a presentation had not been made to LCC as all information regarding planning cases could only be considered at Planning Committee.  He reiterated that documentation had been circulated to Planning Committee members for their information.  The County Council had no financial interest in this project.

 

It was noted that other companies such as AMEC were partners with Star Energy.

 

West Lindsey District Councillor Mrs M W Davidson addressed the meeting with regard to the work undertaken by local ward councillors in the Lincoln Fringe area.  It was noted that the UK had no experience in gas storage and that no advice or information had been sought from the USA on the risks and problems involved.  A public meeting had been held in which WLDC took on board the comments and concerns of those present and had presented that information in a formal response to LCC.  She expressed concern to the process of evacuating the fringe villages in the case of disaster and it was noted that LCC would have to pay damages and organise emergency planning should a crisis occur.

 

It was noted that the planning authority could not take in to account that the company may not be able to provide adequate insurance cover when considering the application and if they could not furnish recompense then LCC could be culpable.

 

Mr Taylor was not positive as to whether house insurance would increase or house prices could decrease in price due to gas storage in the area.  Agast were in the process of collecting evidence from civil servants in order to politically expose the issue and eventually present the case to the European Parliament.

 

It was moved that the Lincoln Fringe Area Forum provide their objection to Lincolnshire County Council to gas storage under south West Lindsey and recommend that it should take place out at sea where it would not endanger lives.  At this point County and District Councillor Peter Heath left the meeting while a vote was taken.  It was AGREED that this objection should take place.

 

It was proposed that an appeal be launched for donations to support Agast in their campaign, but it was AGREED that any members of the public wishing to make donations could contact Agast at the address on the handout.

 

 

8          OPEN DISCUSSION

 

It was suggested that the issue of speeding through villages should be considered at the next meeting of the Forum, with a presentation by Lincolnshire County Council Highways and Planning Department.

 

It was also suggested that Council cut-backs be discussed and the financial consequences.

 

 

9          RENAMING THE LINCOLN FRINGE AREA FORUM

 

It was proposed that the name of the Lincoln Fringe Villages Area Forum be changed to better represent the location of the area.  The name was suggested to infer that the area ‘hung-on’ to Lincoln and did not show that it was part of West Lindsey.

 

Suggestions were made such as:

·         Southern Lindsey Villages Forum

·         South West Lindsey Area Forum

·         Lincoln Fringe Forum

·         Fringe Villages Area Forum

 

It was AGREED that all suggestions were to be submitted to Lynne Spink for consideration at the next meeting of the Forum.

 

 

10        ANY OTHER BUSINESS

 

No other business was discussed.

 

Meeting closed at 9.27pm